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Posted: Wednesday September 27th, 2006 10:58 |
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Would you change your name for the sake of your career?
I ask myself this question as I've noticed in the UK a lot of young Asian business people now have very British sounding names. I live abroad and have just started doing business again in the UK. When I lived in the UK about 8 years ago Aisans were commonly called typical Asian type names, usually which were very difficult for non - Asians to pronounce or spell. Nowadays though I've noticed that Asians tend to have names like Simon, Steve and Andrew etc.
I also personally know two people who have changed their names for the sake of their careers. One is from China and the other is from Persia. I came accross the following article today:-
Top 20 'Whitest' and 'Blackest' Names
Most Popular Boy and Girl Names
Sept. 21, 2006 — - Studies of resumes have found that people with black-sounding names are less likely to get callbacks.
"20/20" put 22 pairs of names to the test, posting identical resumes except for the names at the top.
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The resumes with the white-sounding names were actually downloaded 17 percent more often by job recruiters than the resumes with black-sounding names.
What are some of those names? Here's a list from the book "Freakonomics," by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner, showing the top 20 whitest- and blackest-sounding girl and boy names.
20 "Whitest" Girl Names
Molly
Amy
Claire
Emily
Katie
Madeline
Katelyn
Emma
Abigail
Carly
Jenna
Heather
Katherine
Caitlin
Kaitlin
Holly
Allison
Kaitlyn
Hannah
Kathryn
20 "Blackest" Girl Names
Imani
Ebony
Shanice
Aaliyah
Precious
Nia
Deja
Diamond
Asia
Aliyah
Jada
Tierra
Tiara
Kiara
Jazmine
Jasmin
Jazmin
Jasmine
Alexus
Raven
20 "Whitest" Boy Names
Jake
Connor
Tanner
Wyatt
Cody
Dustin
Luke
Jack
Scott
Logan
Cole
Lucas
Bradley
Jacob
Garrett
Dylan
Maxwell
Hunter
Brett
Colin
20 "Blackest" Boy Names
DeShawn
DeAndre
Marquis
Darnell
Terrell
Malik
Trevon
Tyrone
Willie
Dominique
Demetrius
Reginald
Jamal
Maurice
Jalen
Darius
Xavier
Terrance
Andre
Darryl
Copyright © 2006 ABC News Internet Ventures
Last edited on Wednesday September 27th, 2006 10:59 by Ebony Eyes
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Posted: Wednesday September 27th, 2006 11:08 |
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Bollox....no way the following are Black names.....more ghettofabulous names...
- Raven...
- diamond
- Margues or any of those other made up names BLACK!!!
- Rah next I'll hear that Mercedes and BMW is a BLACK name too...
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Posted: Wednesday September 27th, 2006 11:39 |
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hell no would i change my name
but i wonder if that is something caribean people contend with when having african partners(b i know where all african but you know what i mean)
great topic
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Posted: Wednesday September 27th, 2006 12:13 |
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Kunjufu wrote: Bollox....no way the following are Black names.....more ghettofabulous names...
- Raven...
- diamond
- Margues or any of those other made up names BLACK!!!
- Rah next I'll hear that Mercedes and BMW is a BLACK name too...
GTFOH
Exactly what I was thinking.
I am sure Charlene/Sharlene and Chantelle are far more popular than Raven or Diamond...I've never even met a diamond! These people take the piss.
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Posted: Wednesday September 27th, 2006 13:16 |
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Everyone is an expert. Since when did black boys go by the name Dominique (as opposed to Dominic, which isnt even a black name).
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Posted: Wednesday September 27th, 2006 13:25 |
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DarkCloud wrote: Everyone is an expert. Since when did black boys go by the name Dominique (as opposed to Dominic, which isnt even a black name).
And Demetrius???
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Posted: Wednesday September 27th, 2006 13:28 |
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Dont even get me started on that one. Sounds like it belongs to some Greek folklore. Like someone who wrestles on Mount Olympus.
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Posted: Wednesday September 27th, 2006 13:51 |
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lmao@ DC and BB Who in their righ mind would call their child Diamond can you imagine the conversations or
Diamond is a bright young woman whos shine lights up a room, but she is easily distracted by others unlike her sister cubic zirocornia who is calmer and can fit in everyone's budget....
But having said that, havin a 'white name' can work to a disadvantage you may get the interview but not the call back.
As someone who has a frightfully 'white people name' it is very fustrating walking into places when your name is called only to be looked at like you are crazy (for them to repeat the name at you very slowly even though you've already confirmed that it is you) as they already have that image of somebody...
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Posted: Wednesday September 27th, 2006 15:59 |
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I've never heard the name Tanner being used as a first name!
lmbao @ AAS. I know exactly what you mean. Obviously they can't tell what colour you are when you speak on the phone and when they hear your name, but can't you just hear the sharp intake of breath when they actually clap eyes on you???
Hilarious!
That said, I know I've lost lucrative clients because of my colour, so names don't mean jack.
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Posted: Wednesday September 27th, 2006 16:01 |
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An_Advanced_Spark wrote:
But having said that, havin a 'white name' can work to a disadvantage you may get the interview but not the call back.
As someone who has a frightfully 'white people name' it is very fustrating walking into places when your name is called only to be looked at like you are crazy (for them to repeat the name at you very slowly even though you've already confirmed that it is you) as they already have that image of somebody...
For real....the same thing happens to me because my name doesn't get any whiter than what it is unfortunately. If you have a 'black' name you're better off IMO.
P.S. - I agree with what the other posters have said lol.
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Posted: Wednesday September 27th, 2006 19:30 |
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its an american news article eg abc news network so for the yanks that may be true but not here in uk
im sure there is a slight difference in american and brit popular names
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Posted: Wednesday September 27th, 2006 22:08 |
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£150,000 p.a. and a new job ...
... did he have to change his name?
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Posted: Saturday December 30th, 2006 17:50 |
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As comeone who has a name that couuld be percieved as belonging to someone from a upper middle class white family I have to state that I don't think it makes a difference. The problem with having a more "Eurocentric" name is that this discrimination is felt further along the selection process when applying for jobs for example. Yes, you may get the interview but once the interviewer has seen who you actually are the same stereotypes come to mind and are automatically discounted.
The type of name doesn't make a difference. Maybe the best option is to make sure you have the best possible qualifications so that they have no other choice but to seriously consider you.
We all know how it goes once your black - you have to work twice as hard than your white counterparts. No way around that!!!!
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Posted: Saturday December 30th, 2006 20:54 |
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@Cashmoney. Excellent question. I would say it would depend on the conciousness of the individual but generally that would be a fascinating issue because in the Caribbean many people have African first names all over the place, but not surnames. I do not have usual slave name and the first people to ask me where did you get that funny name from is who...Yep my own other Caribbean people albeit from islands where our name is not known or we have no family there.Always in Jamaica though....
So they accept white names without thinking but it would be interesting if you had one of these six foot Yourba name what would go on.
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Posted: Saturday December 30th, 2006 23:05 |
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Don't even get me started on that bullsh*t racist ass freakonomics book...
But sticking to this topic is a perfect example of the dumbness contained within. How on earth do you compile stats for black "sounding" names? Who decides what sounds black?
And where are the Kofis' and the Ades? Surely they outnumber the bloody DeAndres? Thinking about it, the black Peters, Johns and Michaels probably outnumber the DeAndres too!
I know more white girls called Ebony than black ones funnily enough lol and Alexis became popular with a white character in a soap opera and is still an popular name with Russian types.
Do you see how this book is pure made up nonsense and tenous linkages of unrelated phenomenon or made up fraff from it's bogus author?
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