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 Posted: Wednesday August 16th, 2006 18:59

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http://www.karmabanque.com/


Its brilliant, combining an anti capitalist flavor to the highs and lows of the stock market... these guys are boycotting companies and making money off the fall in their stocks. Surprised its legal and hasn't been closed down yet, seems to be working... I think the latest one is Coke.



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 Posted: Wednesday August 16th, 2006 21:23

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http://www.karmabanque.com/




Its brilliant, combining an anti capitalist flavor to the highs and lows of the stock market... these guys are boycotting companies and making money off the fall in their stocks. Surprised its legal and hasn't been closed down yet, seems to be working... I think the latest one is Coke.



 



Im confused. How is it possible for a few people in this organisation (small numbers in comparison to total number of Coke consumers) who decide not to drink Coke, move its share price? 



In order for Coke to have a dent in its sales, in turn consequential movement in its share price, you would need thousands boycotting the drink.

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Lol. Yeah. I'm still laughing. Its the concept man its ace. Coke is way too large really even if thousands stopped drinking the stuff it'd need to last considering how little they'd drink normally.

Guess part of it is to 'screw up' big companies but if they took aim at smaller ones maybe they could kick up a few bulls and bears here and there.

Haven't had the time to check them out really, they need promoting... more members.

What are you trading on at the moment Le Moore? I'm supposed to be studying all this but I've been busy recently... would be cool to hear a success story or two from a seasoned pro.



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 Posted: Thursday August 17th, 2006 05:27

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Hardly a seasoned pro.

I trade Dow and FTSE futures indices and individual FTSE100 stocks. Recently for the first time traded a Bull/Bear fixed odd currency trade on GBP/Japanese and EUR/Swedish Kroner on the say so of a respected traders subscription service. They both won which was good as i havent much knowledge around currency.

Looking for new markets though. Bacsically i'll trade anything short term if the chart looks good.

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 Posted: Friday August 18th, 2006 18:11

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Would you reccomend taking a course in Options?

To be honest what attracts me to it is that you can be anywhere with the internet and still trade but I'm not sure about it for quite a few reasons, might just be me being lazy or me being a rebel and thus being self defeating, happens quite a bit.

Was hoping you were a pro, noticed you mention a few trading sites in another topic. What do you think of it in general? If I was to start up I'd think about starting a trading group and teaching other people about it. A friend of my moms does that and is doing well. All options though, not stock.

I'm 'with' these guys;

http://www.optionetics.com/

http://www.optionsxpress.com/

Sorry to ask so much but what do you think of those programs you can get? Thats the way I'd go after learning about it.

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 Posted: Saturday August 19th, 2006 05:27

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Rebel-Lion wrote: Would you reccomend taking a course in Options?

To be honest what attracts me to it is that you can be anywhere with the internet and still trade but I'm not sure about it for quite a few reasons, might just be me being lazy or me being a rebel and thus being self defeating, happens quite a bit.

Was hoping you were a pro, noticed you mention a few trading sites in another topic. What do you think of it in general? If I was to start up I'd think about starting a trading group and teaching other people about it. A friend of my moms does that and is doing well. All options though, not stock.

I'm 'with' these guys;

http://www.optionetics.com/

http://www.optionsxpress.com/

Sorry to ask so much but what do you think of those programs you can get? Thats the way I'd go after learning about it.


 

Never traded options but its not too dissimilar to trading futures which i do. The concept in as much as you have to trade in the right direction to win is the same, however the contracts are different.

Programs- do you mean trading software which predict movements?. If it is ive never used one and think the majority of them are suspcious.

If its Software to help you trade thats different. I use Sharescope- non realtime version http://www.sharescope.co.uk/. Best software for charting which is what im heavily into.

Not sure of the best way to learn but i  read a lot of material which is available and also went on the numerous free courses which are available everywhere once you get into the environment.

Eventually though you must develop your own style and trade on paper for a LONG period first before you get your risk/reward instincts and style finely tuned.

I trade purely through technical analysis(TA), ie i look at the chart, and a few indicators MACD, RSI, 200 Day Moving Average mainly. Then i look at the point and figures chart for that particular market and once i have 'aligned all these planets' designed around my own strategic criteria, i will then place the trade.

Its a hobby to me now and find the TA very interesting. 

My next challenge is to learn all about fundamentals ie how to read company balance sheets, and p/e ratios etc to be able to access the state of a company. Then want to buy and hold small cap stocks longer term to give me a more balanced portfolio.



 





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@Le Moore ah you dat..GWan...Join the club..But what I can't understand is how come you have not already familiarised yourself with fundamental analysis and working out P/E ratios and reading company balance sheets etc..

You one of these brave cats who just jump in and take it from there...Understand your reliance on daily forcasts and charting etc but you need to focus on the basics as well.

I agree though investing is a wicked tool for a number of reasons in weakening your reliance on others and increasing your own wealth or security blanket...Every astute black person should be doing it and made mandatory.

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I think quite a few of us are picking up on it... my moms friend is great she only does business with other black people there are some people on Ligali who waffle on about it quite a bit as well. Definatly worth joining one of those trading groups with a good portfolio... are you into it at all FB?

Programs- do you mean trading software which predict movements?. If it is ive never used one and think the majority of them are suspcious.

Yeah those things, I like the sound of them, some are quite good and can be expencive. I'd at least give them a try, to be honest I've got the course books in my room but I haven't touched them yet been too busy to take it in and get to grips with it. The programs appeal to my snazzy side, nothing beats having a mini laptop and trading on an over ground train or on holiday its got that freedom factor, other businesses would involve being around a certain type of people I'm not sure I like. Matching up your own readings to the program is a good one as well, not that I know much about it all.

Eventually though you must develop your own style and trade on paper for a LONG period first before you get your risk/reward instincts and style finely tuned.

I trade purely through technical analysis(TA), ie i look at the chart, and a few indicators MACD, RSI, 200 Day Moving Average mainly. Then i look at the point and figures chart for that particular market and once i have 'aligned all these planets' designed around my own strategic criteria, i will then place the trade.

Its a hobby to me now and find the TA very interesting. 

My next challenge is to learn all about fundamentals ie how to read company balance sheets, and p/e ratios etc to be able to access the state of a company. Then want to buy and hold small cap stocks longer term to give me a more balanced portfolio.


I like the sound of short term trading... ?Day trading? Nothing wrong with holding stocks in a few companies though I guess .lol. I'm a bit, ''street'' in mentality, looking to rake it in asap and spend the rest of my days on a beach with a laptop pressing buttons. Decided a long time ago that the best way for me to get what I want is to be self employed like my pops so I've been looking into Options trading (stock market is too scary) and Import and Export which is something I've alays wanted to get into... You know those mini bikes flying around Estates in London???... I had the drop on those AGES ago, trust me. Me and a Turkish 'friend' were all over the mini bikes industry well before the mini replicas were hyped but we caught onto these Mini Harley davidsons....


Real ones though, that ones not the right model...

As well as the mini replicas and these other mini custom versions they've got in the US... odd cool looking mini bikes but I was too young really that and he tried to rip me off I could get the bikes in cheaper than he could but he had me on transport cause he owned a moving company. Bstard. Was even offered sole distributorship of a certain make but thats dodgy stuff with custom bikes.


How long did it take for you to pick up Futures trading? Guess you can never stop learing really but the fundamentals?


Do you think its worth getting into like FB said?


 



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@ Sir Fred yes you're right, its an area to know. Its one of those things i keep meaning to do but haven’t got round to as of yet. Made a start recently by reading a book on Warren Buffet's strategies and i swear although i like investing, that book was so boring it could have made reading an entire telephone directory sound appealing.

The way i see it Sir Fred is that you if you can break your investments down into different sections then you have a stronger portfolio. For example, hundreds of people are saying that they will no longer invest in a pension. The recent bad press and poor fund performances, have lead them to conclude, that its no longer a viable option to use as an investment vehicle for retirement. Instead they say they will buy a property, rent it out, and use this as an investment for their retirement. That’s fine, but a much better strategy in my opinion is to have both investments. The property market, although very assured, is not a guaranteed investment as we know from the property crashes in the late eighties/early nineties. So if there was a repeat of this crash just before your retirement you would still have a pension propping up your portfolio. This is just one basic reason amongst many, why spreading your risk is a good idea. The old 'eggs in one basket' cliché is one of my favourites, hence Spread Trading and 'Buying and Holding' can only strengthen my position amongst my total stock market exposure.

@ Rebel Lion, in the share trading game there are all sorts of people/companies who will appeal to our GREEDY natures and kid us that there is an easy way to success.

Amongst the many frauds i would hazard a guess that some are reliable even if not 100% so. I looked into one called Omnitrader as i respect the originators style of trading and have developed my technical analysis originally from him.

http://www.nirv.com/omnitrader.asp

Be honest they are not always the easiest things to operate without a demo of some sort so bear that mind if you spend a lot of money on one. The manuals are not always that self explanatory. (Or maybe thats just me not being that techy when dealing with software).

I dont consider my style as day trading. I sometimes hold a position for several weeks although rarely longer. What i particularly love about spread trading is that i can sell short, make profit from a company or index when it is losing value.

How long did it take for you to pick up Futures trading? Guess you can never stop learing really but the fundamentals

I got involved in the Dot Com boom when everyone and their dogs were investing. I had an early hard lesson though as i had big gains followed quickly by loses 3 times as large. Wiped out every last dime to rass. So i kinda took a step back and paper traded for the following few years because a, i needed to learn and b, had no cash. Im still not a pro but (*blows on trumpet*) im profitable throughout the year which i know few can genuinely claim.

I have been watching the DOW Jones every day now for the last 7 years. I know how its moves. I can hear its movements. I can feel its movements.


Its probably not the best market to trade as there are markets with more defined trends out there. However its the DADDY amongst markets and i love it and am addicted to it.

This website is fantastic in learning how to trade this beast.

http://www.signalwatch.com/markets/markets-dow.asp

I dont actually trade it that often but have developed a style which recognises when the risk/verses reward is too inviting to pass.

Check out my most recent trade. (*polishes trumpet*)



Dow Daily Chart




I trade off of Support and Resistance lines. The above is a DOW JONES graph. (DJ is Americas top 30 companies represented as one index., like one overall average share price for them.) Where the purple line is marked is where the DOW Jones has been supported over the last few months, ie at around 10,700. This is the point investors come in and buy. You can see this as the graph troughs twice at this point and then rises. Now for some strange reason, which i find fascinating, markets do trend to a pattern over a short to medium term which you can can study and familiarise yourself with.

This support line which is at 10,700 happens to be an extremely powerful support line as it was not broken even some 7/8 months back which you can see in this following graph taken on larger timescale.


Dow Weekly Chart



Look where the bottom Purple line is? You can now see the two points which were expanded in the first graph (shorter timeframe), but also the same point (10,700) where the market was supported months before as well. This is now telling us that this is a strong/ significant point in the market, where shares are considered to cheap to drop anymore. Markets are typical. For example an electrical store may have a TV set range on sale but sales are slow. It then drops the price and continues to until the public decide "thats cheap enough" and the sets fly off the shelves. The TV sets hit their support levels at the price people were prepared to pay. Same thing.

Anyway how can you convert this knowledge to cash is the question? Well if you identify a good Support/Resistance line then your risk/reward becomes easy. For example with this trade. When the DOW approached 10,700 for the 3RD TIME i already had a pre order in with
http://www.finspreads.com to buy the DOW. Now if the market doesnt behave then your risk is minimal as you know if it drops through 10,700 significantly then it has broken support and highly probable to now start on a new trend, that being downwards in this example. So therefore you can place your limit order (the most you're willing to lose) at around 10,650. Thats a risk of 50 points maximum. If you're trading at £1 per point thats risk of £50 maximum at £10 per point risk of £500 maximum. However looked what actually happened on this trade and what was probable to happen. (must take other factors into account which ill cover shortly).

Go back to the 1st graph and you will see that from the point of the DOW hitting the support (10700) at the most recent time (mid July) until now, the market has rallied to the 11,380 mark. thats some 680 points. I managed to bag 300 points out of this baby thats £300 profit if you trade at £1 per point or £3000 if you trade £10 per point and so on. That was achieved in around 1 and half weeks.

Now i always confirm the support lines by always looking at the 'Points and Figures' charts of the DOW. The 'Point and Figures' charts record true movements and cut out all the congestion you see in the conventional graphs i posted above. Take a look at the DOW P& F graph for the same period we're discussing.







The O marks downward movement and the X mark upward rallies. You can see that the support was confirmed at 10700 at the beginning of the year marked at 06. This is a very strong support line and should the market approach it again i will trade it again. The beauty of such lines is that if the market touches 10650 you can see it hasnt reached this point in over 6 mths therefore the chances are the market has turned and begun a new trend. Remember my limit order was at 10650 so a 50 point loss. i would then start trading downwards from about 10,600 and the likelihood and probabilities say i would return that loss 3 fold on the new downward trend.

So thats my style of trading based all around charting. Goes in into more depth than this as there are other indicators and other chart patterns to consider but generally i do tend to stick to using support and resistance lines.


Rebel you're fishing for a good direction, i would say just learn as much as possible for as cheap as you can intially. Decide where you interests lie first then read, and go on free and inexpensive beginner courses. Then develop YOUR OWN style. Cant stress this enough as to many people are looking for magial formulas and they arent any. Once you do this expand upon this knowledge and venture out but maintain the foundation you originally developed. Paper trade for a long period, min 6 mths. This means simulate trading without actually doing it, before you do it for real. Even if you get a winning formula you need to start small as trading on paper and trading in the real market are two different things. Stress and pressure can make you make all sorts of wrong decesions, you need to learn how to cope. Learn about money management. Ie the best way to spread say £1000. Its better to trade that 10 times with £100 trades than to risk with two £500 trades perhaps. And above all stick to the golden rule. ONLY TRADE WITH CASH YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. If you dont again emotions are likely to force you to not holding your nerve when you should etc. Learn how to cut your loses early but let you winning trades ride. Again a big lesson you need to learn. Most traders do many losing trades but make enough profit from their winning ones to compensate and make the whole experience more than worth while. Always trade with limit orders, ( an order will auto kick in to cut your losses at a certain point) therefore knowing a maximum amount you are prepared to lose.

Sounds like you got an eye for buying good stock such as the bikes. Makes sense. Sure there'll be plenty more opportunities coming your way though. Eventually no doubt you'll go with your instincts and take up the challenge. Entrepaneurs always do.



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Rebel you're fishing for a good direction, i would say just learn as much as possible for as cheap as you can intially. Decide where you interests lie first then read, and go on free and inexpensive beginner courses. Then develop YOUR OWN style. Cant stress this enough as to many people are looking for magial formulas and they arent any. Once you do this expand upon this knowledge and venture out but maintain the foundation you originally developed. Paper trade for a long period, min 6 mths. This means simulate trading without actually doing it, before you do it for real. Even if you get a winning formula you need to start small as trading on paper and trading in the real market are two different things. Stress and pressure can make you make all sorts of wrong decesions, you need to learn how to cope. Learn about money management. Ie the best way to spread say £1000. Its better to trade that 10 times with £100 trades than to risk with two £500 trades perhaps. And above all stick to the golden rule. ONLY TRADE WITH CASH YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. If you dont again emotions are likely to force you to not holding your nerve when you should etc. Learn how to cut your loses early but let you winning trades ride. Again a big lesson you need to learn. Most traders do many losing trades but make enough profit from their winning ones to compensate and make the whole experience more than worth while. Always trade with limit orders, ( an order will auto kick in to cut your losses at a certain point) therefore knowing a maximum amount you are prepared to lose.

Sounds like you got an eye for buying good stock such as the bikes. Makes sense. Sure there'll be plenty more opportunities coming your way though. Eventually no doubt you'll go with your instincts and take up the challenge. Entrepaneurs always do.


Yup. Its all risk management.

The Import Export industry is never slow, always new products coming out and trends to jump in on. The buy low sell high concept hardly evolves much. As you said you have to know the market, what will sell and what won't. I like Import Export cause you get to know whats gonna be popular before it is. Sucks when you see something and can't move on it knowing it'll do well just to see it all over the place a few months later. As said I'm not actually into it all yet. Theres a lot I'd have to learn weighing up what to get into really, might just settle down with Options trading, anything else can come later...

What I'm missing out on = The chinese are smashing it right now, tearing it up!... Industry is booming all the way.... Africa would too if it weren't for the vampires... get to, 'bump into' plenty of those guys in Import Export trust me.

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Whats the most you made from one trade?


Well the date is very easy to remember. It was on September the 11th 2001.

Yeah i was SHORT the DOW Jones on the day the twins towers were ablaze.

When the planes hit the towers within minutes the markets went crazy. I incidentally was at home at the time watching the screens and noticed this humungus drop in the figures. I thought it was an error. I then had a phone call from a friend who also trades and told me to turn on the TV.

It was then i realised what had happened.

Anyway by the end of the day the market had crashed some 700 points. This has been my biggest points gain to date. 

I was still fairly inexperienced and took my profit there, but the market over the next few days crashed to around the 3000 mark. I wasnt gutted though as it was slightly an uncomfortable, eery and unethical time to trade knowing thousands had died. However i was in the trade before the events happened and i couldnt predict the events happening either, obviously. It was pure coincidence as you couldnt trade once the events happened. The Spread Betting companies widened their Buy/Sell spreads so much, it wasnt attractive to enter trading. At one point when it first happened the markets just became suspended. Thousands who were LONG that day would have been financially ruined. Locked in a trade which is going the wrong way with the market suspended but still reducing in value and nutin they can do to cut their loses. Shocking. Thats why you must ALWAYS trade with limit orders. Those who did would have automatically had their trades cut at the point they wanted, therefore limiting their losses, exposure and risk.

So 700 is the biggest gain in points ive had to date. The biggest win monetary is the trade i just described to you above in my previous post, but obviously you arent expecting me to disclose the amount here are you? You'll just have to use your imagination.

It could be anywhere from £1 per point, the minimum trade size, to £500 per point the maximum. So that would be anywhere between £300 profit to £150,000.


Happy guessing.  :P

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WOW!

If I was more savvy at all this I guess I could work it out or something... what car do you drive btw? .lol.

Guessing its not so much a hobby for you then, you can sit back and more or less trade when you want without having to join the slave trade that is the 9 - 5 work ethic...?.... go to parties at canary warf and what not.

I know of two people who got jobs as brokers, they're hardly around anymore everytime I see them they have;

''I have too much money for someone my age''

Smiles. Diffrent from other smiles cause theres a glazed look in their eyes you can see Ferraris and cokaine in. .lol.

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Rebel-Lion wrote: WOW!

If I was more savvy at all this I guess I could work it out or something... what car do you drive btw? .lol.

Guessing its not so much a hobby for you then, you can sit back and more or less trade when you want without having to join the slave trade that is the 9 - 5 work ethic...?.... go to parties at canary warf and what not.

I know of two people who got jobs as brokers, they're hardly around anymore everytime I see them they have;

''I have too much money for someone my age''

Smiles. Diffrent from other smiles cause theres a glazed look in their eyes you can see Ferraris and cokaine in. .lol.

So you're more or less reccomending it, right?


Hate to disappoint you bro but my aspirations are the same as yours. I too long for that day when i can sit on an veranda overlooking the white sands and trade from a laptop.

But for now i have to get up and join the nine to five crew.

Im not driving the Beamer 6 series convert that i want either. (only a 3 series convert...lol)

It is a hobby as it not the main business model i want. I consciously made that decesion after trying to trade for a living and failing miserably. Not through the action of quitting i just feel a gravity elsewhere.

I will always view it like investing in the bank or building society. Its just another investment basket.

Yes its high risk but the portion of risk capital from the overall amount of investment capital obviously reflects this for protection purposes.

Recommend.......well its definatley not for the majority. Its a form of gambling at the end of the day and for most that only spells disaster. 


Talk to me more about the import/export thing. Any ideas whats hot and whats not at the moment?
 

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Talk to me more about the import/export thing. Any ideas whats hot and whats not at the moment?


Hmmm... no sands and laptop trading!? No glazed eyes with Ferraris in the middle? :shock: 

I'm not on the circit in In/Export right now supposed to be studying but I've been busy... don't get the updates, magazines and stuff anymore. The last products I was looking into were;

These cool motor powered scateboards...

My god they've got motor powered snowboards! Sorry... 

Was looking for the Powered scateboards and came up with something I'd be drooling all over if I was to be on track, as it were, this is ingenious!



http://www.jimmydz.com/


These will do well, see if I was into it all now I'd keep an eye out for developments with this product and do a trade on the stock market if lets say a big company bought the patent or someone got sole distributorship and sold to a next company... you know. Might have problems with manovering though, steering and all.


Things like this hurts, seeing something new and knowing its the buzz. :P 


Can be, 'dangerous' though, like there were these mini jet ski's small versions of the big ones you'd see P.Diddy on for kids in pools... they were looking for distributorship in the UK (I'd be the middle man not a distributor, thats long) now, thats an ace product would do well on holiday resorts and stuff... they could rent them on beaches and in hotels... FLAW! Haven't heard a whisper from those guys, can see a kid skimming off the edge of a hotel pool or ending up off the shores of spain or something. Have to be wary of things at the same time. 


Anyway, was going to get into the mobile phone industry, refurbished phones do well in developing countries, Nigeria is a big one as well as India, would be selling or looking to sell those wind up chargers and solar panel chargers to the same people. Theres some makes of phone people don't know about that'd do well in those countries rather than the typical ones we see in the UK.


Cars is/was another one... Skyliners and Japanese imports are cool, always do well. America is starting to get into Europe, Chysler are doing well. Wouldn't surprise me if other US makes start thinking about the European industry...


My company name was, ***** Trading International. Which for some reason is still registered even though I got rid of it a while ago. :X Anyway the plan was/is to more or less be a multi agent selling a range of things rather than just one prehaps under diffrent company names but under the umbrella of ******* Trading ltd. Countries like the UK are good for Import/Export cause you can probably find a person from this and that country down the road and don't have to hassle for an interpreter or a sales person, even get to hear of new opportunties from other people, everyone knows about the Skyliners to England one, heck go to china town and see what they sell.


Right now theres a problem in Zimbabwe and they're looking for computers, if I had the money to put down I could get refurbished ones for £100 each, monitors for like £15. But I don't have the money to put down wouldn't expect it back either would have to hold an event or something, support them in someway.


Plenty of underhanded tricks to be played, not supposed to get a product in and sell it yourself, undermines the market cause you can really aggrovate the price, nothing wrong with setting up another company and having a, ''sale''... those guys selling mobiles on the street and in markets?... Import/Export, refurbished modelsk, if they were smart they'd get the boxes and manuals in and stick to like Grade A, offer repairs and what not... those characters that have street auctions?... Probably the same thing, no way they'd be able to get what they do in for those prices, someones leaking goods. (Probably)


Some things for sale that make you go.... :shock: 


All forward thinking of course, I'm market savvy but wouldn't get into it yet, too busy really. Like most things you don't really need training could buy books on the subject and go from there. Bash about on http://www.Alibaba.com and see whats going on etc...


Its a good thing to get into cause its residual... as in you get a contract signed and get paid a commission off of each order made, get onto a hot cake and you're good to go. Some people get onto a new gadget and tear up the show like the first motor scooter guy. Thing is its mainly about en mass sales but there are some small things that people kinda forget about like these collectable adult toys made in HK that do well over here... find them in swazzy shops in Central.




Wasn't on the grapevine when these came out but I can still big up my chest and say I heard about them a while ago, and they're not that big yet. Might blow up at one point or something. Got loads of the things now, there was only a few models before.


http://www.dinkybox.co.uk/acatalog/Qee_8_inch_vinyls_Qees.html


Clever people stick to things like food, always needed, never changes apart from regulations....


Recommend.......well its definatley not for the majority. Its a form of gambling at the end of the day and for most that only spells disaster. 


Life is a gamble, get with a, 'girl' in Thailand and its a gamble .lol. See you're point though. It seems like fun watching the markets and stuff. Being a stock broker is probably the best job I can think of. Shame i lost contact with my broker buddies, never see an advert for them its like they just get picked up or something.



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Good post Rebel, you got me thinking and inspired.  


I especially like these words (I'd be the middle man not a distributor, thats long). 


Never looked at import/export like that but it makes perfect sense. I always worried about the risk involved of getting ripped off for goods by a supplier whos on the other side of the world somewhere. Plus the storage space issue.  


The 'middle man' set-up completely solves all this and is particualary appealing to me as sales is my thing..... 


Not sure about the powered scateboards though. lol

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 Posted: Friday August 25th, 2006 10:38

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Not sure about Powered Scateboards!? Man these things were/are the don.




33cc!


Imagine if you could take the regulator off... :shock: (if there is one on these things) Thats over half the speed of a standard moped on 4 wheels close to the ground. Could see people mashing up parks and dirt tracks on these things... they've got electric versions that can do 44cc! Brilliant for racing. The Americans aren't liking China right now, they're scared of their development so those toys I know you like aren't really getting around as much as they would.


Its all about middle manning now a days, being a broker is the best job you can get in any industry really. The, 'best job' defined as being the most paid.


I have a passion for In/Ex but not as much as I do for my personal studies in things like history/philosophy/spirituality/culture etc nothing clashes with that, still manage to get lost in it all... end up dropping everything and living with tibetan monks. .lol. If I could break away from the area I'm in I'd probably end up in a Dashiki (no lie). Have to admit I type better than I like to speak at times, that one gets caught in my revolutionary ways. .lol. Self defeating? confused3 


 


In/Ex is cool for me cause you get to/have to know a bit about culture and current affairs. Politics has merged with business way too much. Some, 'current affairs' is nothing but the two making friction, at least in my opinion.


http://www.hotcourses.com/


^^ Can find a course on In/Ex on there. Definately reccomend it

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