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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 15:47 |
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Hey ppl
Well this thread is to announce that I have just completed the first version of the my freelance website http://www.dtads.com or http://www.dtads.co.uk, its basically a side thing that I am doing along with my full time work (a guy wants to earn more bread ), I state that its first version simply, becuase its bound to change, as its not as stable as I want it to be yet.
I mainly putting it here, to get people's feedbacks and any ideas on how I can improve on it, spelling mistakes, your whole impression of it etc, so if you all have a time have a look at it, and don't hesitate to tell me what you think and spread the word.
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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 16:08 |
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I generally don't like it when I click on a link and it leads to what I call a 'nothing' page. After all the first thing I'm seeing is black page with a useless telling me nothing logo!
What is it, what's it about, why should I hang around to find out!!!!??.
Naaah - I 'd just click straight out again, (which is what I did), even if there may be a link to a wonderful site underneath, (which incidentally, there isn't - no link that is!).
Sorry! You did ask.
At least you didn't have a silly animated intro that I usaually see, where it usaually bares no recognisable relation to the actual page that contains the info that one goes to a site for!
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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 16:20 |
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athaba wrote: I generally don't like it when I click on a link and it leads to what I call a 'nothing' page. After all the first thing I'm seeing is black page with a useless telling me nothing logo!
Lol..... I see your point, I considering changing the logo, and the emblem on it......
What is it, what's it about, why should I hang around to find out!!!!??.
fare point... I guess we still haven't adapted to the world of never judge a book by its cover.... hmmmm will take that into consideration
Naaah - I 'd just click straight out again, (which is what I did), even if there may be a link to a wonderful site underneath, (which incidentally, there isn't - no link that is!).
Sorry! You did ask.
So you are telling me you didn't even have a look at whats inside.. athatba thats terrible lol....
At least you didn't have a silly animated intro that I usaually see, where it usaually bares no recognisable relation to the actual page that contains the info that one goes to a site for!
Thanks athaba.. though I am disappointed you didn't even bother to click....
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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 18:07 |
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To be quite honest with you BT, I never thought that was what I was meant to do - click the logo that is!
Anyway for the sake of a fairer report, (and because I now realise that was what I was meant to do lol), I did just go inside and actually it was quite interesting. It was clear that you design websites and that you are offering your services to people.
Feedback was easy to get to as well as the all important contact page!
I actually liked it! All it needs is a few polishing touches like you said and you're there!
Perhaps a few simple animations/videos/recordings - whatever - showing samples of what you do wouldn't go amiss. Don't you think its good if a viewer gets something interactive to do?
It shouldn't need to be said but I hope people would get replies to thier comments as we have all been there, where sites beg for feedback, but don't reply themselves, making them appear rude or indifferent! Bad business! If you are likely to be inaundated with replies and think you would not be able to cope, then state that, (businesslike), on the website. Make it clear also, reasons for any possible delay as to why you may not be able to get back in touch if at all, or not fast enough that people would expect.
I don't, as a rule, like dark backgrounds on websites. At least it wasn't those horrible yuckky wallpaper types! I like black text on white background, with pretty colours/stuff scattered thinly about it. That is obviously just a personal preference though, so what you and others think may be another matter.
I just think, suppose somebody sent you a mauve letter in a pink envelope, what would your immediate thought be? Would you think it was from your solicitor? If it turned out it was, wouldn't you think that it's slightly odd if not downright unprofessional?
That's the way I view websites. If it was about joe bloggs football team I'd be more inclined to accept it, but when we are talking about business, personally I'd prefer to view traditional formats.
That's enough for now!
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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 20:17 |
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Only had a brief look but I think the site is well designed and quite esay to navigate.
Suggestions get to the point of the site a bit quicker so move the services to your home page as thats what the sites about and where youll earn your money. Id also get rid of "My Names is" line as you want to create a company feel not a one man band approach.
The logo thing at the start i think is alright as it helps build your brand, I think that you need to get the 'loading' notice more centred and visible though and if possible get into the site a bit quicker as Athaba touched on.
All said i wouldnt take my words too literally as ive no experience in internet design and there are tried and tested ways to do things correctly with this subject. An agency can help or there are loads of designs books to follow.
If i wanted a site designing i'd buy from you and im not just saying that your design is impressive.
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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 20:19 |
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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 20:21 |
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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 20:22 |
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I have had a look at your website and I think it is very good.
I hope my comments are taken as constructive criticism:
I think this point has been already mentioned, but the colours are rather sombre, however, that is a personal taste.
Having navigated the site, I can see the level of expertise, therefore I would not question your qualifications.Is your resume required?
I'm a point and go man, therefore, I tend skip intros.(press the link, then Bam! next page)
That said, my site is in serious need of a revamp. I will email you from your site to see if we can do some business.
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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 20:23 |
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I have had a look at your website and I think it is very good.
I hope my comments are taken as constructive criticism:
I think this point has been already mentioned, but the colours are rather sombre, however, that is a personal taste.
Having navigated the site, I can see the level of expertise, therefore I would not question your qualifications.Is your resume required?
I'm a point and go man, therefore, I tend skip intros.(press the link, then Bam! next page)
That said, my site is in serious need of a revamp. I will email you from your site to see if we can do some business.
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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 20:24 |
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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 20:30 |
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I have had a look at your website and I think it is very good.
I hope my comments are taken as constructive criticism:
I think this point has been already mentioned, but the colours are rather sombre, however, that is a personal taste.
Having navigated the site, I can see the level of expertise; therefore I would not question your qualifications. Is your resume required?
I'm a point and go man therefore, I tend skip intros. (press the link, then Bam! next page)
That said, my site is in serious need of a revamp. I will email you from your site to see if we can do some business.
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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 20:37 |
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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 20:38 |
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yeah i concur with all the reviewers so far
your sites is good
may i suggest you create a html version of your site for users who do not have flash enabled on their browser?
apart from that everything is good 
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Posted: Monday May 16th, 2005 22:57 |
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The layout is good, I see it will be very informative. Following on from Cell, if people need to have flash enabled and they don't u should create a link which will give them the opportunity to download it.
Keep up the good work
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Posted: Tuesday May 17th, 2005 08:34 |
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1.) First of all thank you all for your comment I really appreciate it, so much good valid point raised.
2.) Please don't think becuase I have a background in design, my expertise can't be questioned, as its through criticsm, that I will be able to improve on my work, sodon't hesitate to question me on anything.....
@athaba.... you know you raised some good points, and I will be making some changes based on them, especially on the first page, in as muh as I have tried to design the from a clients perspective, my personal thouch couldn't help but get in the way.
I will try and make it more obvious, to give a user/client a little insight into what the website is about, before they even click on the logo.
@Lemoor.... Another good point raised, most people want to get straight to the point by knowing what kind of service you have, then details later so I am considering what you said..... also the one man band thing is the catch 22 I have been battling with. But I think you are right on that note.
@cell & facetygal..... You are most definetly right on doing a html version its in the pipeline....(currently testing and checking a script that checks if you have flash player on your machine, which will then direct you to the neccessary page), but for now will probaly put a link to macromedia download page.
@All please keep those comments coming..... , as its the only way I can improve on it.
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Posted: Thursday May 19th, 2005 13:27 |
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Let us exchange links, my friend.
http://www.daps-online.com
I checked out the site and the comments that were made in the beginning were
kinda harsh! Especially when you already said it was in its initial stages of development.
My only comment is, an animated page that large, even with broadband,
doesn't run all that smoothly...but errr...maybe I should look at it when Limewire isn't running!
Personally, I like the colours. I hear what people are saying about it being
a bit sombre, cos from a Joe Bloggs stand-point it generates that kind of mood
and doesn't convey excitement/flare (which is what people "expect" from Designers).
But, like I tell people, "what I do for ME and what I can do for you are two
different things." LOL!
I think the link to the Macromoedia Site is a good idea and if you can be asked to
do one, a HTML version would help those who still rock 56k Slo'dems.
Personally, I couldn't be asked to do a HTML version of my site, but when I update it, I will.
Let us know when it's done, so we can view your portfolio.
Is it cool to put work your way?...True, it's only a side-line.
Holla via the site, with a pricelist mate!
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Posted: Thursday May 19th, 2005 13:53 |
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DS wrote: Let us exchange links, my friend.
http://www.daps-online.com
I checked out the site and the comments that were made in the beginning were
kinda harsh! Especially when you already said it was in its initial stages of development.
My only comment is, an animated page that large, even with broadband,
doesn't run all that smoothly...but errr...maybe I should look at it when Limewire isn't running!
Personally, I like the colours. I hear what people are saying about it being
a bit sombre, cos from a Joe Bloggs stand-point it generates that kind of mood
and doesn't convey excitement/flare (which is what people "expect" from Designers).
But, like I tell people, "what I do for ME and what I can do for you are two
different things." LOL!
I think the link to the Macromoedia Site is a good idea and if you can be asked to
do one, a HTML version would help those who still rock 56k Slo'dems.
Personally, I couldn't be asked to do a HTML version of my site, but when I update it, I will.
Let us know when it's done, so we can view your portfolio.
Is it cool to put work your way?...True, it's only a side-line.
Holla via the site, with a pricelist mate!
Thanks bro
To be honest I didn't or don't take any of the comment harshly (I found it positive), I am just waiting for broadband to come (hopefully coming next week), before I put my portfolio there. At the moment I am uploading changes at work, which I don't really like doing, prefer to do it at the comfort of my own home, when I have more time to try and test things out properly.
Same goes for the html version of the site.... not looking to do it until I feel complete about the original website itself.
Anyway will get in touch with you via your site..
Peace
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Posted: Sunday May 22nd, 2005 10:58 |
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@ Blackthought
I had a look at your website and let me start off with telling you you have great potential. You are entering a business that is overfilled with self-employed home based designers so a little bit of advice for you.
1. You did the first part which is ask for, listen and take heed of other peoples comments
2. Try to show off your creative side a bit more, creativity does not have to be flashy, it can be subtle but yet ingenious
3. Make it open to all, this is a global business but don't pigeon hole your ideas. On your home page you advertise your latest project, great... but it automatically tells a lot of potential customers about you and your background. Show more than one project showing your depth and scope that way you are not stereotyped as a designer.
I started off about 5 years ago and first taught myself HTML, then Java and Flash and how to use several packages. But I learnt it is not only what you can do, it is how creative you can be.
All it takes is a good or great idea, mine was allowing people on the largest black web site BlackPlanet.com to have music videos play on their pages, my name on theer is Da Video Man. That had over 3,000 people visiting my page per day, looking at my work and also allowed me to show a bit of my other web ideas and talents and what was good about BlackPlanet you where restricted to HTML so your ideas had to be superior to your programming skill. I now do most of my projects for US companies and I am still a home based East Londoner.
If you really want to make it... find a simple idea that no one has done yet, get it on free websites that everyone can have access to, use that as your advertising to direct people to your business site and always evolve. Don't rely on the fact that you can use a lot of programs, they do a lot for you, make the programs work for you, find ways to push your skills and programs to their limits. Don't do what everyone else is doing, do it new, do it fresh, be first.
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